John's comments on the "Church Planting" post:
I like what you are saying here Roger. If I can just focus on where others are at spiritually and really care enough to (attempt to) make a difference in their lives, through relationship, prayer, charity or some type of help, then I have begun the work of sowing, investing. If I continue to build in relationship, I will meet with them. If I meet with them, I can hope to "gather" them to God, perhaps disciple them or nurture God in their lives. This is personal. All the building and the externals are really not all as necessary as we've made it. Yes, in fact we've made all that the focus. As Dallas Willard might say, "we're flying upside down". It is the "My ministry" mantra. We don't have a ministry, we minister in Jesus name! It's His ministry we are to carry on.
Yeah... that's what I'm trying to say here!